Posts by Sea Breeze

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Jesus Never Limited His Promies to 144K

by Sea Breeze in

what were we thinking?

mat_10:32 whosoever therefore shall confess me before men, him will i confess also before my father which is in heaven.. mat_10:33 but whosoever shall deny me before men, him will i also deny before my father which is in heaven.. mat_12:50 for whosoever shall do the will of my father which is in heaven, the same is my brother, and sister, and mother.. mat_16:25 for whosoever will save his life shall lose it: and whosoever will lose his life for my sake shall find it.. mat_18:4 whosoever therefore shall humble himself as this little child, the same is greatest in the kingdom of heaven.. mar_10:15 verily i say unto you, whosoever shall not receive the kingdom of god as a little child, he shall not enter therein.. luk 6:47,48 whosoever cometh to me, and heareth my sayings, and doeth them, i will shew you to whom he is like: he is like a man .

which built an house, and digged deep, and laid the foundation on a rock.

Sea Breeze

Exceptions are implied in "all" or "everyone"

Can you provide an exampe?

Thanks.

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Did the ransom sacrifice even work?

by Sharpie in

shower thought entered my mind the other day... jesus christ.

as per doctrine.

is still alive in heaven right now correct?

Sea Breeze

@Jerrro,

Most of the claims of being eyewitnesses of Jesus come from the ‘gospels’ (including Luke-Acts), all of which were anonymously written decades after the alleged events.

There are at least 5 lines of evidence that show very high probability that the earliest Christology is really the highest Christology. Using atheist scholars' own strict criteria, a person can be certain that the message of the death, burial, and resurrection was widely believed and preached upon prior to Paul leaving on his trip to Damascus (2-3 years after the cross)..... and probably just weeks or months afterward.

The "heresy" of this widespread high Christology that Paul kept hearing about was probably one of the main reasons he continued to hunt down Christians; he hated their message.

This video explains:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YMx1OikHC8U

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Did the ransom sacrifice even work?

by Sharpie in

shower thought entered my mind the other day... jesus christ.

as per doctrine.

is still alive in heaven right now correct?

Sea Breeze

A common fallacious argument offered by believers is that first century Christians wouldn't be willing to die for their beliefs

@Jeffro

Skeptics aren't suggesting that that the apostles and others died for their beliefs. They are asking Christians to believe that the apostles and others died for their lies, for something they KNEW to not be true; because they said they were eye-witnesses.

That is a whole 'nuther thing altogether.

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New GB

by XBEHERE in

jw
friends

gage fleegle.

jeffrey winder.

anyone know them?

Sea Breeze

Who then is a faithful and wise servant...? Blessed is that servant, whom his lord when he cometh shall find so doing. Verily I say unto you, That he shall make him ruler over all his goods. - Mt. 24: 45

Let's not forget that these men believe (like Russell did) that they are specifically prophesied about in scripture. They took a rhetorical question from Jesus and his promise of ruling with him in heaven and apply it to the here and now... meaning that they alone are the channel that can save 8 Billion people.

That is what these men believe. They have a Messiah complex.

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Information Theory and the Demise of Darwinism

by Sea Breeze in

at a recent xjw conference, software engineer fred williams spoke on the subject of information that is found in nature.

it is a fascinating topic.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvpveyf5cic .

Sea Breeze

Cofty,

Why don't you come on Real Science Radio and explain your ideas? They have had lots of evolutionists on before. I can assure you that they have never had a former Jehovah's Witness elder turned evolutionist on their show before. You would be an instant celebrity. They would be very grateful.

You can do the whole thing by zoom. You already have the material in the video I posted in the OP. All you have to do is review that, collect your ideas and have a little chat about the whole thing. No need to get nasty. Adults can disagree. It is an important topic in our society. I think you would a least agree with that.

Would you agree to come on the show?

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Information Theory and the Demise of Darwinism

by Sea Breeze in

at a recent xjw conference, software engineer fred williams spoke on the subject of information that is found in nature.

it is a fascinating topic.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvpveyf5cic .

Sea Breeze

You use the same dishonest technique of misquoting and misleading.

Cofty,

You are engaging in the same kind of attacks as the people you quote like Graur. Are you going to take a picture of your baby granddaughter and claim she is flipping me off too?

I disagree with New Scientist' conclusion. The quote is real, properly notated and referenced. It is circular reasoning as I stated.

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Information Theory and the Demise of Darwinism

by Sea Breeze in

at a recent xjw conference, software engineer fred williams spoke on the subject of information that is found in nature.

it is a fascinating topic.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvpveyf5cic .

Sea Breeze

@Cofty

It looks like to me this guy is an extremist evolutionist and got his feathers ruffled when science didn't turn out the way he demanded. Author Jonathan Wells explains:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kAY8p9ZfEFs&t=220s

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Information Theory and the Demise of Darwinism

by Sea Breeze in

at a recent xjw conference, software engineer fred williams spoke on the subject of information that is found in nature.

it is a fascinating topic.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvpveyf5cic .

Sea Breeze

The scientists at ENCODE are characterized as "prominent" by New Scientist.

Here's how Dan Graur came to the conclusion that ENCODE was wrong according to New Scientist:

"After 20 years of biologists arguing that most of the human genome must have some kind of function, the study calculated that in fact the vast majority of our DNA has to be useless. It came to this conclusion by calculating that, because of the way evolution works, we’d each have to have a million children, and almost all of them would need to die, if most of our DNA had a purpose.

But we each have just a few children on average, and our genetic health is mostly fine. The study therefore concludes that most of our DNA really must be junk – a suggestion that contradicts controversial claims to the contrary from a group of prominent genomics researchers in 2012".

So in other words, he just ran the numbers and the numbers do not support evolution. So he attacked the scientists instead of the theory of evolution.

At Graur's personal website here, he shows a picture of his baby grandaughter giving ENCODE the finger. Really? This loose cannon is who evolutionists are quoting?

Evolution News states:

"I realize, since this guy is a flaming left-winger, as a glance at his Twitter feed will confirm (the profile photo shows an upside-down American flag). But read what he says about Junk DNA, quoted by Jonathan Wells in his new book:

In 2013, biologist Dan Graur criticized the “evolution-free gospel of ENCODE” and accused its researchers of “playing fast and loose with the term ‘function,’ by divorcing genomic analysis from its evolutionary context.”81 In a lecture at the University of Houston, Graur argued that “if the human genome is indeed devoid of junk DNA as implied by the ENCODE project, then a long, undirected evolutionary process cannot explain the human genome.” In other words: “If ENCODE is right, then evolution is wrong.” But for Graur, evolution can’t be wrong. His solution to the problem? “Kill ENCODE.”82

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Information Theory and the Demise of Darwinism

by Sea Breeze in

at a recent xjw conference, software engineer fred williams spoke on the subject of information that is found in nature.

it is a fascinating topic.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvpveyf5cic .

Sea Breeze

@Cofty

How would you respond to evolutionary biologist Dan Graur who stated:

“For 80 percent of the human genome to be functional, each couple in the world would have to beget on average 15 children and all but two would have to die or fail to reproduce,” he wrote. “If we use the upper bound for the deleterious mutation rate (2 × 10−8 mutations per nucleotide per generation), then … the number of children that each couple would have to have to maintain a constant population size would exceed the number of stars in the visible universe by ten orders of magnitude.”

In 2012, the Encyclopedia of DNA Elements (ENCODE) announced that 80 percent of the genome had a biochemical function.

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Information Theory and the Demise of Darwinism

by Sea Breeze in

at a recent xjw conference, software engineer fred williams spoke on the subject of information that is found in nature.

it is a fascinating topic.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvpveyf5cic .

Sea Breeze

Cofty,

I know you are a strict evolutionist. But, the scope of this lecture goes far beyond biological evolution.

Physicist John Wheeler, who is on par with Albert Einstein famously said:

"Everything is particles, everything is fields, everything is Information"

This lecture is all about science. It gives us a glimpse into the very mind of God, since that is where all this information originated from. It is mind-boggling.